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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:10 pm    Post subject: Not good for the "We need armed Security" crowd Reply with quote

https://www.wptv.com/news/national/deputy-at-florida-high-school-where-17-were-killed-never-went-in-resigns
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, arming teachers has been a disaster. And there's no evidence that your local high school English teacher with a pistol is in any way prepared to take on a psychotic terrorist with an arsenal of automatic weapons.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arming-teachers_us_5a8f0d48e4b0664343555886
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.


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Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.


Not a reach. The "good guy with a gun" didn't want to engage the shooter, probably because he had a hand gun and the shooter had something a lot better. I guess we now need to arm our schools with teachers and resource officers that have AR's strapped to their back. Is this what you envision?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.


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Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.


Not a reach. The "good guy with a gun" didn't want to engage the shooter, probably because he had a hand gun and the shooter had something a lot better. I guess we now need to arm our schools with teachers and resource officers that have AR's strapped to their back. Is this what you envision?


There are human fails at every point one time or the other... so you contend that with that possibility, nothing should be done...freakin brilliant!!!!


The other thing you forget, if the potential shooter knows some are armed where he planned on shooting, he may not go.... most of these shooters are cowards....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.


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Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.


Not a reach. The "good guy with a gun" didn't want to engage the shooter, probably because he had a hand gun and the shooter had something a lot better. I guess we now need to arm our schools with teachers and resource officers that have AR's strapped to their back. Is this what you envision?


There are human fails at every point one time or the other... so you contend that with that possibility, nothing should be done...freakin brilliant!!!!


The other thing you forget, if the potential shooter knows some are armed where he planned on shooting, he may not go.... most of these shooters are cowards....


Did I say nothing should be done stupid Phuk? I'm showing that it looks like we will need a police state presence in our schools since teachers and SRO's may be going up against the bullet pictured on the right with a firing rate of over 60 rds/min. In most cases, they will probably avoid confrontation like the SRO at Parkland did.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word has it (4) deputies were outside during the shooting AND NONE WENT IN. I sh!t you not.........
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
So far, arming teachers has been a disaster. And there's no evidence that your local high school English teacher with a pistol is in any way prepared to take on a psychotic terrorist with an arsenal of automatic weapons.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arming-teachers_us_5a8f0d48e4b0664343555886


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.


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Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.


Not a reach. The "good guy with a gun" didn't want to engage the shooter, probably because he had a hand gun and the shooter had something a lot better. I guess we now need to arm our schools with teachers and resource officers that have AR's strapped to their back. Is this what you envision?


We now know that the video feed to police headquarters was on a 20 minute delay. So shooter had shot up school and left before police even knew it was happening. It was this video which the claim that the deputy knew about the shooting was based.

Just more evidence that the people cannot rely on the police to stop a criminal act, just to handle the aftermath of a criminal act.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
So far, arming teachers has been a disaster. And there's no evidence that your local high school English teacher with a pistol is in any way prepared to take on a psychotic terrorist with an arsenal of automatic weapons.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arming-teachers_us_5a8f0d48e4b0664343555886


What is your solution to put an end to mass murder?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
mudslinger47 wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.


Quote:
Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.


Not a reach. The "good guy with a gun" didn't want to engage the shooter, probably because he had a hand gun and the shooter had something a lot better. I guess we now need to arm our schools with teachers and resource officers that have AR's strapped to their back. Is this what you envision?


There are human fails at every point one time or the other... so you contend that with that possibility, nothing should be done...freakin brilliant!!!!


The other thing you forget, if the potential shooter knows some are armed where he planned on shooting, he may not go.... most of these shooters are cowards....


Did I say nothing should be done stupid Phuk? I'm showing that it looks like we will need a police state presence in our schools since teachers and SRO's may be going up against the bullet pictured on the right with a firing rate of over 60 rds/min. In most cases, they will probably avoid confrontation like the SRO at Parkland did.



Nice. You do know that is a .22 round you're using for comparison? No law enforcement officers carry a caliber that small. Those are mostly for hunting small varmints. What is your solution to put an end to mass murder?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
JamieHall wrote:
So far, arming teachers has been a disaster. And there's no evidence that your local high school English teacher with a pistol is in any way prepared to take on a psychotic terrorist with an arsenal of automatic weapons.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arming-teachers_us_5a8f0d48e4b0664343555886


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“If Luke Woodham had an AR-15, he probably would have killed 20 people instead of two,” he said. “There’s not a soul on the planet who needs an AR-15 except military.”


WHOOPS


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
mudslinger47 wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Kind of reaching there. Your own article said he wasn't in the school. So there was no armed guard.


Quote:
Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.


Not a reach. The "good guy with a gun" didn't want to engage the shooter, probably because he had a hand gun and the shooter had something a lot better. I guess we now need to arm our schools with teachers and resource officers that have AR's strapped to their back. Is this what you envision?


There are human fails at every point one time or the other... so you contend that with that possibility, nothing should be done...freakin brilliant!!!!


The other thing you forget, if the potential shooter knows some are armed where he planned on shooting, he may not go.... most of these shooters are cowards....


Did I say nothing should be done stupid Phuk? I'm showing that it looks like we will need a police state presence in our schools since teachers and SRO's may be going up against the bullet pictured on the right with a firing rate of over 60 rds/min. In most cases, they will probably avoid confrontation like the SRO at Parkland did.



Nice. You do know that is a .22 round you're using for comparison? No law enforcement officers carry a caliber that small. Those are mostly for hunting small varmints. What is your solution to put an end to mass murder?


Please post a comparison picture of a .223 with whatever round you think the average teacher or SRO will be using. Impress me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9mm, .40, .45. You need to do your own research, "pictures".

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
JamieHall wrote:
So far, arming teachers has been a disaster. And there's no evidence that your local high school English teacher with a pistol is in any way prepared to take on a psychotic terrorist with an arsenal of automatic weapons.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/arming-teachers_us_5a8f0d48e4b0664343555886


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Joel Myrick wrote:
“If Luke Woodham had an AR-15, he probably would have killed 20 people instead of two,” he said. “There’s not a soul on the planet who needs an AR-15 except military.”


WHOOPS


There is not a single military force in the world who would chose to use an AR-15. It is a SEMI automatic and does not have select fire capabilities. You sound almost as ignorant as Morning Joe who actually claimed that the AR-15 is more lethal than the M-16.

Seems you have admitted this part.

"Despite Mr. Myrick’s firm stance against arming faculty members, he has long advocated placing trained personnel, possibly retired law enforcement officers, in every school, as a deterrent."

You see he is FOR armed security just not for UNTRAINED teachers carrying. Wonder why is it that you left our this key line from story. Or were you thinking people woudl accept your small taken out of context comment and not actually investigate. He killed 2 at the high school because that was who he was intending to kill.
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